US is a democracy for the ruling class which is the capital owning class, just as ROC is. As Lenin so eloquently put it, in capitalist society, providing it develops under the most favorable conditions, we have a more or less complete democracy in the democratic republic. But this democracy is always hemmed in by the narrow limits set by capitalist exploitation and consequently always remains, in effect, a democracy for the minority, only for the propertied classes, only for the rich. Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in the ancient Greek republics: freedom for the slave owners.
Don’t take my word for it though, here’s what a study analyzing decades of US policy found:
Meanwhile, the whole concept of any sort of democracy is pretty recent in ROC given that it was a literal dictatorship for most of its existence. If the current fascist in charge actually goes to jail, which seems increasingly unlikely, then another representative of the capital owning minority will replace him.
On the other hand, DPRK is a socialist state where workers are in charge. The industry and farms in DPRK are a mix of state and cooperative ownership, and work is done for the benefit of the workers themselves. A state where capital does not rule over the workers is fundamentally more democratic than any sort of bourgeoisie democracy could ever hope to be.
It’s quite obvious that you don’t know the first thing about the subject you’re attempting to debate here. Why should anybody care about what it looks like to you?
It’s very obviously not a hereditary monarchy, why would I bother arguing with a person who just makes up absurdities and states them as fact? You don’t deserve my time buddy.
But didn’t Kim Il Sung, the first leader of the DPRK, father Kim Jong Il? And didn’t Kim Jong Il, the second leader of the DPRK, father Kim Jong Un? And didn’t Kim Jong Un father Kim Ju Ae, viewed by South Korea as Kim Jong Un’s most likely successor? How many generations must supreme power reside within one family until you admit it’s a hereditary monarchy?
That, and once again you’re being incredibly rude and condescending. Please don’t call me “buddy” or talk about my “person” like that. Keep your mind on discussing the topic and hand, and avoid getting emotional and attempting to insult me.
US is a democracy for the ruling class which is the capital owning class, just as ROC is. As Lenin so eloquently put it, in capitalist society, providing it develops under the most favorable conditions, we have a more or less complete democracy in the democratic republic. But this democracy is always hemmed in by the narrow limits set by capitalist exploitation and consequently always remains, in effect, a democracy for the minority, only for the propertied classes, only for the rich. Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in the ancient Greek republics: freedom for the slave owners.
Don’t take my word for it though, here’s what a study analyzing decades of US policy found:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B
Meanwhile, the whole concept of any sort of democracy is pretty recent in ROC given that it was a literal dictatorship for most of its existence. If the current fascist in charge actually goes to jail, which seems increasingly unlikely, then another representative of the capital owning minority will replace him.
On the other hand, DPRK is a socialist state where workers are in charge. The industry and farms in DPRK are a mix of state and cooperative ownership, and work is done for the benefit of the workers themselves. A state where capital does not rule over the workers is fundamentally more democratic than any sort of bourgeoisie democracy could ever hope to be.
You really had me until you claimed workers are in charge of the DPRK. it looks like a hereditary monarchy to me.
It’s quite obvious that you don’t know the first thing about the subject you’re attempting to debate here. Why should anybody care about what it looks like to you?
so it isn’t a hereditary monarchy? or are you just going to attack me personally instead of making an actual argument regarding the topic at hand?
It’s very obviously not a hereditary monarchy, why would I bother arguing with a person who just makes up absurdities and states them as fact? You don’t deserve my time buddy.
But didn’t Kim Il Sung, the first leader of the DPRK, father Kim Jong Il? And didn’t Kim Jong Il, the second leader of the DPRK, father Kim Jong Un? And didn’t Kim Jong Un father Kim Ju Ae, viewed by South Korea as Kim Jong Un’s most likely successor? How many generations must supreme power reside within one family until you admit it’s a hereditary monarchy?
That, and once again you’re being incredibly rude and condescending. Please don’t call me “buddy” or talk about my “person” like that. Keep your mind on discussing the topic and hand, and avoid getting emotional and attempting to insult me.