Both don’t ship with their own Wayland compositor, but there are enough to choose from.

Xfce comes with a wayland session using labwc out of the box, but was also tested with Wayfire. The devs state you shouldn’t hold your breath waiting for the native window manager xfwm to be ported into a Wayland compositor, since they don’t know if/when it will be done. Almost all other Xfce components support Wayland now, while retaining X11 compatibility.

LXQt’s newest stable release has full Wayland support, with 7 different Wayland compositors to choose from within a GUI settings menu: Labwc, KWin, Wayfire, Hyprland, Sway, River and Niri

https://xfce.org/about/news/?post=1734220800
https://lxqt-project.org/release/2024/11/05/release-lxqt-2-1-0/

  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
    81·
    3 days ago

    For what it’s worth, they have experimental Wayland support. It’s an important distinction. For example, Cinnamon has experimental Wayland support IIRC and last time I tried setting up a lock screen on my ThinkPad (you know, for security purposes, since it’s a laptop and all) I wasn’t able to get one working.

    • admin@sh.itjust.works
      01·
      3 days ago

      When I first started using KDE and Sway I was so used to the Xfce apps that I installed the xfce4-goodies, running on top of Wayland. So fucking good memories.

  • chismoso@lemmy.mlEnglish
    0·
    3 days ago

    sway, wayfire, river, hyprland and labwc are standalone wayland compositors. why we need desktop environments inside them!

    • Ferk@lemmy.ml
      11·
      3 days ago

      A compositor is normally a component in a DE, not a DE on its own. For it to be a DE in my book the “standalone” installation needs to, at minimum, provide: a launcher to execute apps, a toolbar/statusbar, and maybe a terminal emulator (or at least call some generic wrapper to automatically hook into one, something like xdg-terminal-exec).

      I mean… openbox is used in X11 desktop environments like LXDE… I don’t see why labwc (essentially wayland’s openbox) should be treated like it cannot be a component of one.

      And river has almost as a mission statement to become more of a framework than a DE on its own… they even have the goal in the long term to remove things from it and instead expose more to the commands/API to make it more modular… it’s definitely not something intended to work standalone and they expect people to develop third party layout generator programs.

      Maybe sway is the one in that list that might be the most “standalone”, since it does have swaybar built-in… but the default configuration still expects you to provide at least something like dmenu to use as launcher, as well as making sure you have your terminal, etc, since it does not list them as specific dependencies of the sway package, so officially they aren’t really part of sway as if it were a DE suite.

    • superkret@feddit.orgOP
      0·
      3 days ago

      You don’t need a desktop environment, but it takes away a lot of config work if you want a full featured desktop.

      • loutr@jlai.lu
        1·
        3 days ago

        Exactly, I used hyprland for a while but configuration is too time-consuming if you want a decent status bar, launcher, keybinds… So I’m excited to try it with LXqt, thanks for the heads-up!

  • not_amm@lemmy.ml
    0·
    3 days ago

    I don’t know if it’s been updated recently, but take into account that LXQT doesn’t support global shortcuts yet ☝️

    It works well, but it’s still missing features; as they say: it’s experimental right now.

    • Admetus@sopuli.xyz
      1·
      3 days ago

      Fedora, so most Gnome based distros. KDE as commented beside me. Arch-based EndeavourOS.

    • shadshack@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      3 days ago

      KDE Neon and kubuntu have Wayland as default. Just was trying them because I wanted Plasma 6. Took a bit of tweaking for a few things but I have all the things I need running fine with Wayland.