What does “proper” to any country engaging with the US matter if the US ignores it and then fucks them over for doing it?
It was proper of Canada to uphold the trade agreement reached in Trumps first term, the US reneged on this and is dropping tariffs hand over fist regardless, and now no one is a winner.
Doing anything properly necessitates two parties can agree on something at a minimum and uphold that.
The US is an un-agreeable, improper, traitorous entity, therefore nothing can be done “properly”.
If Europe starts doing illegal shit like this, we will lose trust from the rest of our allies which aren’t going down the drain. I’ve written the US off already, but going all loose-cannon will set the precedent that we can’t be trusted and compromise the rest of our international relationships.
I don’t think the US needs to agree to anything in order to rescind whatever agreement is being discussed here.
I understand what you are saying, but context matters as well, and has superseded bureaucracy depending on the situation historically.
Poland never formally declared war on Germany in response to the invasion on September 1, 1939. Do you think badly of Poland for this because they didn’t “properly” declare war before trying to fight back?
I am doubtful, because the context matters to you in understanding what they were doing, and why they were doing it.
That’s fair, and I do agree in extreme circumstances decisions might need to be taken without having the time or resources to follow process, but we better choose those moments very fucking carefully. An invasion would qualify, this “visit” would not, imo.
What does “proper” to any country engaging with the US matter if the US ignores it and then fucks them over for doing it?
It was proper of Canada to uphold the trade agreement reached in Trumps first term, the US reneged on this and is dropping tariffs hand over fist regardless, and now no one is a winner.
Doing anything properly necessitates two parties can agree on something at a minimum and uphold that.
The US is an un-agreeable, improper, traitorous entity, therefore nothing can be done “properly”.
If Europe starts doing illegal shit like this, we will lose trust from the rest of our allies which aren’t going down the drain. I’ve written the US off already, but going all loose-cannon will set the precedent that we can’t be trusted and compromise the rest of our international relationships.
I don’t think the US needs to agree to anything in order to rescind whatever agreement is being discussed here.
I understand what you are saying, but context matters as well, and has superseded bureaucracy depending on the situation historically.
Poland never formally declared war on Germany in response to the invasion on September 1, 1939. Do you think badly of Poland for this because they didn’t “properly” declare war before trying to fight back?
I am doubtful, because the context matters to you in understanding what they were doing, and why they were doing it.
That’s fair, and I do agree in extreme circumstances decisions might need to be taken without having the time or resources to follow process, but we better choose those moments very fucking carefully. An invasion would qualify, this “visit” would not, imo.
Yes, what you said is fair as well. I think we have reached a mutually positive conclusion then. Have a good day.
Love it when that happens :)