Fidesz didn’t dissolve democracy, they hacked it. I feel the term captured state fits, but they also talk about it being a hybrid regime.
Your concerns are very much grounded, but I just don’t see booting HU as a good solution. While there might be merit into ‘scaring Hungarians’ into getting rid of Orbán and co with a chance of losing EU access, it would only be good as a hail mary. I’d say half his voter base doesn’t really care about external (or internal) politics or is convinced that Brussels is the new Moscow.
Let me ask you one thing: is it better to have an ally that is visibly corrupted than to try and support the partizans in a neighbouring Russian vassal?
Valid suggestion. My motivation is based on Orban to veto any major changes that would defend Europe from Russia.
One could also change the need for absolute consensus in the EU but that could also lead to a slippery slope.
My reasoning is that if a country would not qualify for entry in the current state there should be pressure to change things. At least they shouldn’t be able to extort the Union like they currently do.
I mean in no way to punish the Hungarian people, but there needs to be some unpacking to be done, I’m not sure if that could happen without external pressure in the current ‘hacked’ democracy.
While I cannot see any outright solution for our collective Orbán problem, I can definitely say it’s a great learning experience in adjusting requirements for newcomers.
We need to attach joining a common public prosecution to list. Something with teeth, that only autocrats need fret (I have no clue what and how, though).
My reasoning is that if a country would not qualify for entry in the current state there should be pressure to change things. At least they shouldn’t be able to extort the Union like they currently do.
I whole-heartedly agree. I am definitely biased on the matter, but I feel the whole separation direction is antagonistic to the EU cause. Like right now Orbán is definitely antagonistic and causing disruption to the common goal, but if we separate Hungary from the EU, we take away Orbán’s tight-rope act and the problem only further festers (albeit, outside the EU).
There is definitely an argument to be had against this, as the EU has acted as a valve for people who were fed up enough. So maybe we can make a pressure cooker, but for some reason I doubt the government will be the first casualty if that happens.
Fidesz didn’t dissolve democracy, they hacked it. I feel the term captured state fits, but they also talk about it being a hybrid regime.
Your concerns are very much grounded, but I just don’t see booting HU as a good solution. While there might be merit into ‘scaring Hungarians’ into getting rid of Orbán and co with a chance of losing EU access, it would only be good as a hail mary. I’d say half his voter base doesn’t really care about external (or internal) politics or is convinced that Brussels is the new Moscow.
Let me ask you one thing: is it better to have an ally that is visibly corrupted than to try and support the partizans in a neighbouring Russian vassal?
Valid suggestion. My motivation is based on Orban to veto any major changes that would defend Europe from Russia.
One could also change the need for absolute consensus in the EU but that could also lead to a slippery slope.
My reasoning is that if a country would not qualify for entry in the current state there should be pressure to change things. At least they shouldn’t be able to extort the Union like they currently do.
I mean in no way to punish the Hungarian people, but there needs to be some unpacking to be done, I’m not sure if that could happen without external pressure in the current ‘hacked’ democracy.
While I cannot see any outright solution for our collective Orbán problem, I can definitely say it’s a great learning experience in adjusting requirements for newcomers.
We need to attach joining a common public prosecution to list. Something with teeth, that only autocrats need fret (I have no clue what and how, though).
I whole-heartedly agree. I am definitely biased on the matter, but I feel the whole separation direction is antagonistic to the EU cause. Like right now Orbán is definitely antagonistic and causing disruption to the common goal, but if we separate Hungary from the EU, we take away Orbán’s tight-rope act and the problem only further festers (albeit, outside the EU).
There is definitely an argument to be had against this, as the EU has acted as a valve for people who were fed up enough. So maybe we can make a pressure cooker, but for some reason I doubt the government will be the first casualty if that happens.